Jam with Dan Edwardes from PK Generations, Sunday 11/23

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Comment by SafeNSure on November 24, 2008 at 11:24am

this conditioning vs. warm-up + training topic has been discussed extensively in the circumstance of a good blog post by orem, which I'm inviting all the interested ones to re-read...

(btw: based on her SoCal experience, thus good physical conditioning being no miraculous revelation inspired by some Celtic, Gaulish or Norman noble cast of "bards"...)

Comment by orem on November 24, 2008 at 10:22am

it wasn't as different as some of you may think (but it was different, i'll reaffirm that). the teaching certification was created because there are gymnastic teachers in Britain trying to absorb parkour and turn it into "freestyle gymnastics" or some other silly name. basically it's gymnastics incorporating pk "moves." the british government wants certified pk coaches now, so if someone like pkgen doesn't act, the gov blessings will go to the gymnastic freestylers since in their certifications amongst "acrobatics" they will list "parkour movements."

this is me paraphrasing from memory though, so i'd much rather people take a look at the q&a when it's up and analyze that.

and an hour warm up of conditioning is a GOOD warm up. i'm so sore today, and so happy. i was getting tired by the time i joined you guys, but i'd also trained around after the warm up for a good hour and a half. i look forward to trying that whole routine again.

Comment by hillexallen on November 24, 2008 at 9:37am

I don't even know what to think about this whole thing. I am not so sure about an hour of warmup because it sounds a little excessive, even an hour of conditioning is a little much in my opinion.

I am very glad to hear that he is against competitions, and I agree with him that the championships are a joke. However, kaos made a good point that he could be just saying what we want to hear, and be saying something different when he talks to Urban Freeflow, and other pro-competition organizations. However, I did some research and I found that yhe has said multiple times that he is against competition, so that's a good sign.

As for the ADAPT program, I'm really not so sure. It seems like it has good intentions, but it seems like it is building a "class system" in the parkour world, which I don't think should exist. It could work, though.

I really wish I could have come to this,
I'm sure it would have been interesting to get a different perspective on parkour philosophy.

Comment by kingtheking on November 24, 2008 at 8:32am

isnt an hour warmup more just like working out lol

Comment by lethalbeef on November 23, 2008 at 11:45pm

I wish more of you would have come out to this one. We had an awesome warmup conditioning session that I'm going to start incorporating (slowly...) into my training. It really kicks your butt, everyone was dying afterwards, took about an hour. After that we had a little Q&A with Dan about the things that are going on with the parkour world. I didn't take notes and I don't feel like I'd do him justice by trying to paraphrase what he said, but I'll say right now that I think, at least from what he said, that a lot of the people who have strong opinions against PKGens would be given a lot of food for thought. I think traceurs have a lot more in common with each other than anyone thinks.

For the record, he stated that he is personally against competitions and thought the "World Parkouring Championships" was a joke, but he thinks instead that something more like an international festival would be much better.

We had some cameras on at the time, and when the videos are up I'll post them here so you guys can give a listen to what he said, I believe the ADAPT program is of particular interest?

Comment by SafeNSure on November 21, 2008 at 11:56am

to Aero: we are bitches, all right!
;)

Comment by hillexallen on November 21, 2008 at 9:38am

I'll be at the Basic Training.

Comment by Ryan Fulmer on November 18, 2008 at 3:54pm

i'll try to make it. i wanna see what all the fuss is about. haha i really want to see if these guys run there mouths as much as you all say.

dance off bitches...

Comment by hillexallen on November 17, 2008 at 6:13pm

Yes, we are not bashing, that was bad word choice.

Comment by Chris on November 17, 2008 at 5:21pm

Of course you can learn from people you disagree with. That is completely besides my point. I am forgoing the opportunity to learn from them, because I think not supporting their business is more important.

It is my opinion that Parkour Generations is predatory. They often bypass communities that have a healthy understanding of parkour in favor of less established ones. They focus on communities that they know will help expand their brand. They ignore older traceurs and focus on the younger ones. So while I might learn a new conditioning exercise at their session, I know that by attending their events I am supporting their business, their cause, and their methods. I cannot do that in good conscious.

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