Train Hard - Stay Humble

CHAU BELLE DINH

Just a wonderful video.

Forget his PKgen affiliation

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Comment by hillexallen on March 6, 2009 at 11:33am: David Belle said "I fall all the time—I fall like the monkeys—but it never shows up on film, because they just want the spectacular stuff."

So many people here approve of David Belle but not Yamakasi!!! It is not logical I think!

They started with the same games, and they still train almost the exact same way!!! They both stress the importance of conditioning and slow progression, and they both play on the Dame du Lac and jump around from roof to roof! They both do flips, it's just flips are part of Yamakasi, but not parkour. They all do movements that are dangerous (the video of David Belle SPRINTING up the Dame du Lac). They both do movies. They both have companies and make money by doing parkour (David Belle is even creating a parkour team). They both oppose competition and reckless training.

What is the difference in their training that causes many people on this website to approve of David belle, but not Yamakasi?

Comment by hillexallen on March 6, 2009 at 11:20am: Maybe the "traditional" catleap when coming from a height or when at a height falls into he category of "inefficient" or "unnecessarily dangerous". I think it is much more dangerous that Chau's catleap.

Pros:
a. The chances of falling are MUCH less because the traceur can wrap his arms around trhe obstacle instead of hanging by his fingers.
b. There is no need for a muscle up because it leaves the traceur on top of the obstacle instead of hanging on it. If he does not need to perform a muscle up, he doesn't use as much energy, which is more efficient.

Cons:
a. The landing is sudden and potentially hard on the bones and muscles, so much conditioning is needed before attempting the movement.

Still, I don't think he would be using his catleap technique if it would be easier to use the "traditional" catleap technique. Since none of us have as much experience as him, and have not tried catleaps of that size, it makes sense that we have much less of an idea than him about how to do a catleap at a height.

Comment by Kirill on March 6, 2009 at 10:07am: And look at BElle and the Dame du Lac?! o yes...those are totally danger-free!

Comment by Kirill on March 6, 2009 at 10:07am: wouldnt say that doing a catleap is inefficient.

Comment by SafeNSure on March 6, 2009 at 9:50am: Yes, there is: inefficient or unnecessary dangerous techniques are "bad" according to parkour definition... no irony.

Comment by Kirill on March 6, 2009 at 9:42am: irony #2: Is there such thing as bad technique in Parkour?

Comment by hillexallen on March 6, 2009 at 9:40am: Irony #1: We are criticizing Chau Belle Dinh's technique on a movement which we haver never even tried. I think that if he tried doing the "traditional" catleap fom that height, he would lose grip and fall backwards.

Comment by Kirill on January 9, 2009 at 9:24pm: there is no way of doing it right. this guy is the original founder....remember that david alone didnt found parkour

Comment by Iliketovaultthings on December 25, 2008 at 9:08pm: What good are you if you're hurt? Ok so yeah they have good conditioning, but basically, technique is very important to ensure that you don't get hurt. Now if he keeps some of his bad habits up, he might get hurt. That's why we talk about slow progression. It doesn't matter all that much how long he's taking, so long as he's doing it RIGHT. "SafeNSure"

Comment by Kirill on December 25, 2008 at 9:04pm: conditioning also obviously minimizes the probability of getting hurt. Simply becuase you can hold on, you have more body control- and develop "body armor"