Photography - Bay Area Parkour2024-03-28T09:06:06Zhttp://baparkour.ning.com/forum/topics/2070047:Topic:7048?commentId=2070047%3AComment%3A7189&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe event scheduled originall…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-07-29:2070047:Comment:115132008-07-29T06:23:54.458ZSafeNSurehttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/SafeNSure
The event scheduled originally for June 18th (than moved to <a href="http://baparkour.ning.com/events/event/show?id=2070047:Event:7245">July 18</a>) has been canceled for lack of momentum, due to summer vacations and Kirill being out of town.<br />
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I think we all stand still by our opinions expressed in this thread; as soon as somebody feels he/she can take charge of putting a session together (with a photographer) they should simply…
The event scheduled originally for June 18th (than moved to <a href="http://baparkour.ning.com/events/event/show?id=2070047:Event:7245">July 18</a>) has been canceled for lack of momentum, due to summer vacations and Kirill being out of town.<br />
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I think we all stand still by our opinions expressed in this thread; as soon as somebody feels he/she can take charge of putting a session together (with a photographer) they should simply <a href="http://baparkour.ning.com/events/event/new?cancelTarget=http%3A%2F%2Fbaparkour.ning.com%2Fevents">plan a specific event here</a>.<br />
For something like this I recommend at least a week notice, just to put people together and select location... ...the idea behind closing it…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-06-13:2070047:Comment:74872008-06-13T04:37:35.313ZSafeNSurehttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/SafeNSure
...the idea behind closing it, is that, after agreeing that it's a good idea, that "<i>our</i>" photographers could do that, and that they are available, nevertheless that we should set up "<i>special</i>" session for it, the energy of all the ones interested can be more valuably conveyed in the actual thread organizing the first of a sequence of photo-shoots... ('cause the <a href="http://baparkour.ning.com/events/event/show?id=2070047:Event:7245">event thread</a> didn't not pick up that much…
...the idea behind closing it, is that, after agreeing that it's a good idea, that "<i>our</i>" photographers could do that, and that they are available, nevertheless that we should set up "<i>special</i>" session for it, the energy of all the ones interested can be more valuably conveyed in the actual thread organizing the first of a sequence of photo-shoots... ('cause the <a href="http://baparkour.ning.com/events/event/show?id=2070047:Event:7245">event thread</a> didn't not pick up that much speed yet, did it?). Why is it necessary to close…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-06-13:2070047:Comment:74822008-06-13T03:45:01.782ZKirillhttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/Kirill
Why is it necessary to close it though>?
Why is it necessary to close it though>? ...very well!
It seems to me…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-06-13:2070047:Comment:74782008-06-13T03:37:39.387ZSafeNSurehttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/SafeNSure
...very well!<br />
It seems to me that we have beaten this horse quite a bit and would recommend to switch to what we (<i>BAparkour...</i>) are most known for: ACTION!<br />
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I will close this thread on these final agreeing notes, and re-open it anytime there's a specific request (l<u>ike some new Photographer joining the group</u>).<br />
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Otherwise, IMHO I believe we should focus on setting up (<i>and taking part to</i>) <a href="http://baparkour.ning.com/events/event/show?id=2070047:Event:7245">specific…</a>
...very well!<br />
It seems to me that we have beaten this horse quite a bit and would recommend to switch to what we (<i>BAparkour...</i>) are most known for: ACTION!<br />
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I will close this thread on these final agreeing notes, and re-open it anytime there's a specific request (l<u>ike some new Photographer joining the group</u>).<br />
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Otherwise, IMHO I believe we should focus on setting up (<i>and taking part to</i>) <a href="http://baparkour.ning.com/events/event/show?id=2070047:Event:7245">specific events like this</a>, and <a href="http://baparkour.ning.com/photo">display the results here</a>.<br />
=) No worries, it was a fair sug…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-06-13:2070047:Comment:74642008-06-13T02:14:23.702ZSenghttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/msgr33
No worries, it was a fair suggestion, esp if you've had good experience that way. I'd just rather see people at least try it themselves first because there's a lot to be learned that way.<br />
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Also, as this discussion may have hinted at, there will be plenty of outside photographer requests as parkour grows (while staying still fringe enough to be interesting) so we need to be able to understand our own needs before jumping at every opportunity, especially ones that may distract from training or…
No worries, it was a fair suggestion, esp if you've had good experience that way. I'd just rather see people at least try it themselves first because there's a lot to be learned that way.<br />
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Also, as this discussion may have hinted at, there will be plenty of outside photographer requests as parkour grows (while staying still fringe enough to be interesting) so we need to be able to understand our own needs before jumping at every opportunity, especially ones that may distract from training or endanger individuals. I meant no disrespect, sorry…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-06-13:2070047:Comment:74582008-06-13T01:48:15.854ZCaliguyhttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/Caliguy
I meant no disrespect, sorry if i stepped on anyones toes, it was only a suggestion :D
I meant no disrespect, sorry if i stepped on anyones toes, it was only a suggestion :D Pro Camera and Calumet in SF,…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-06-13:2070047:Comment:74542008-06-13T01:44:26.303ZSenghttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/msgr33
Pro Camera and Calumet in SF, Keeble and Schuchat in Palo Alto and even borrowlenses.com, wherever there are based, all have professional equipment available, the same or better equipment than any art school student might be able to access through their institution, not to mention that it may be more affordable to many to rent gear than to pay for school. The latest tech helps photography just as shoes helps parkour; it's not like there weren't incredible action photographs taken before digital…
Pro Camera and Calumet in SF, Keeble and Schuchat in Palo Alto and even borrowlenses.com, wherever there are based, all have professional equipment available, the same or better equipment than any art school student might be able to access through their institution, not to mention that it may be more affordable to many to rent gear than to pay for school. The latest tech helps photography just as shoes helps parkour; it's not like there weren't incredible action photographs taken before digital cameras, motor drives and radio-triggered remote strobes. Then again, as the saying goes, a good craftsman never blames his tools, a great one always does.<br />
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I think part of Kirill's point is that we have potential photographers in our midst and it would be preferential to develop talent from within instead of seeking out just because of equipment insecurity. There's often a big difference between what looks cool to an outsider and what a practitioner can really appreciate. Ideally, a great shot would appeal to both, but without the some background in a discipline on the part of the photographer, the images tend to be lacking. I think it would be more in line with the philosophy of this group to refine our own image than to ask an outsider (though of course also a potential traceur/traceuse) to do it for us. true in a sense, however, as…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-06-11:2070047:Comment:72572008-06-11T08:09:06.707ZCaliguyhttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/Caliguy
true in a sense, however, as an amatuer photographer i have neither access nor ability to manipulate the higher end equipment that can change a good photograph into art, thats the difference i was trying to make clear, not that they would be any better, but that they would have access to top of the line photography equipment<br />
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and i doubt that formal artistic training hurts their artistry, which is why i suggested the academy of art, which is known for its indepence and free spirit towards art,…
true in a sense, however, as an amatuer photographer i have neither access nor ability to manipulate the higher end equipment that can change a good photograph into art, thats the difference i was trying to make clear, not that they would be any better, but that they would have access to top of the line photography equipment<br />
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and i doubt that formal artistic training hurts their artistry, which is why i suggested the academy of art, which is known for its indepence and free spirit towards art, and i doesn't have much of a stifling effect...<br />
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also with regards to your analogy learning to read music does not, or at least in my experience, hurt your playing, in most cases it helps it, because its much easier to record what you have played and play it again later when you can ya know actually read/write it, just becuase you can do something by the book, in this case, read and write music, doesn't mean you have to; the musician wouldn't be relegated to only playing music that others have written or only playing music he can write down afterwards... Pakour would be another example, i can learn the basic form of a Kong, Dash, Theif and what have you, but than later adapt that on my own, but i first must learn the fundamentals which is what schooling is all about Funny, I might have said form…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-06-11:2070047:Comment:72552008-06-11T07:37:53.155ZSenghttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/msgr33
Funny, I might have said formal training may limit you.<br />
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Musician #1: Can you read music?<br />
Musician #2: Yeah, but not enough to hurt my playing.<br />
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The difference between professional and non-professional isn't training, it's how one conducts their business.
Funny, I might have said formal training may limit you.<br />
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Musician #1: Can you read music?<br />
Musician #2: Yeah, but not enough to hurt my playing.<br />
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The difference between professional and non-professional isn't training, it's how one conducts their business. I agree with that a photoshoo…tag:baparkour.ning.com,2008-06-11:2070047:Comment:72522008-06-11T06:58:59.671ZSenghttp://baparkour.ning.com/profile/msgr33
I agree with that a photoshoot and a jam, especially beginner training sessions, don't really mix for all the reasons SafeNSure has touched on above. It's great that there are such willing models here, but I'd actually recommend that photographers organize their shoots outside of this site unless they really want them to be open attendance.
I agree with that a photoshoot and a jam, especially beginner training sessions, don't really mix for all the reasons SafeNSure has touched on above. It's great that there are such willing models here, but I'd actually recommend that photographers organize their shoots outside of this site unless they really want them to be open attendance.